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Re: Russell of Disney/Pixar’s Up is Asian!

twitter-19896506 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:20:06 -0000

Not gonna lie: this made me laugh so hard. How ironic.

Re: Russell of Disney/Pixar’s Up is Asian!

facebook-5501043 — Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:29:52 -0000

I love it! We need more "Russells" in mainstream roles in entertainment.

Re: For $25/hr, You Too Can Learn Starcraft From a Real Korean

facebook-7304153 — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:22:26 -0000

Koreans engage in raids and pvp battlefields too; its just that the community and accessibility of starcraft has made it more mainstream for mainland koreans. Its an easy game to network on low-end machines in cyber cafes.

Taeyeon of SNSD prefers protoss. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-IeDpcUTew

The term, "gosu" has come to mean pro in the real-time-strategy community. Gosu, as I understand, roughly translates to "pro" in korean.

What I've always found odd, is that many of the professional korean sc players leave the sport to serve their mandatory military service. They never return to the arena after they complete their service.

Re: Paul Fong: California, Apologize for the Persecution of Chinese Immigrants

kktan — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 05:57:16 -0000

For a real progressive democracy based on fundamental principles and ethics, US must apologise for its past wrong doings. It must lead the world by example, otherwise human rights violation can be justified in any way by any state in US and any other country.
The Japanese still refuses to take back over 2 million canisters of poisonous weapon of mass destruction left behind in North China. It has yet to apologise for dragging its feet for the past 60 years. Do they hope for the WMD to leak and kill more people? Meanwhile, the USA has already built the US$2 Billion worth biological weapon destruction plant in East Russia in one year, bravo! The Japanese government must build the same plant with US technology to decommission all the WMD in China with immediate effect.
The Japanese government has yet to pay back the poll tax of ~RM500 million collected from Malaysian Chinese during the second world war. The Malaysian Chinese community has yet to receive a response from the Japanese government after campaigning for the past 40 years.
It is so very important the US government apologises now, as it will ensure many other recalcitrant evil deeds world wide can be redressed quickly. Come on Obama, you can!

Re: Philanthropy YouTube Style

GrowingMoney — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 13:23:14 -0000

Thanks for the link.

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

timat8asians — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 12:38:44 -0000

I grew up on the East Coast, but have lived for the last 19 years on the West Coast. On the East Coast I grew up in a neighborhood with few Asians, and we drove to Chinatown once a month. On the West Coast (in Silicon Valley) you can't go a mile without seeing lots of Asians. So at least the experience is very different, and that of course creates differences in the people. I can't help thinking I would have been a lot more self-confident if I grew up on the West Coast, instead of wondering why I was so different from everyone else on the East Coast. I think you'd have this same issue anywhere else in the country other than the West Coast.

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

jeffat8asians — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:46:39 -0000

You definitely are relevent. To a lot of West Coast Asians, anyone east of the West Coast is an East Coast Asian! I say that only half facetiously.

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

twitter-5613962 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 08:16:51 -0000

I'm Midwestern Asian, am I relevant?

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

johnklin — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:39:09 -0000

@ jeffat8asians - thanks for the reference to my original post and your comments - I thought they were quite insightful.

@Amanda Zhang - I thought your observations were generally pretty spot on. I first noticed the difference of West Coast vs. East Coast Taiwanese Americans when I went on the Love Boat. The West Coast Asians seemed to know each other (i.e. UC Berkeley, UCLA, etc...), seemed to be more social and outgoing,and most of all, "louder." I think East Coasters (and not just Asians), tend to be a bit more "elitist."

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

jeffat8asians — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:57:00 -0000

I'd say that there definitely is a difference between East Coast Asians and West Coast Asians. I think two previous posts on 8Asians are really relevant here:

John's California Asian American Culture Shock

Ernie's We Eating TV: San Francisco's Anti-Foodie Foodie Show

The comments on John's post are also pretty revealing. I grew up in a heavily Asian-American neighborhood in the Bay Area, and when I went to college on the East Coast, I similarly found the Asian American's on the East Coast to be pretty strange. They didn't "hang" in the same way. The Asian-American kids from Hawaii felt the same way as I did.

To be fair, I would have to say that Asian-American's from the West Coast are pretty diverse. Some are from mostly white neighborhoods, and others from working class multicultural neighborhoods, Ernie describes this second environment pretty well in his post, and I grew up in a similar kind of area. I used to think that the typical Asian-American is a guy like Homie Gus or Big Jon. In fact, during undergrad, I felt that I had a lot more in common with African-American students than with many East Coast Asians there. It's kind of the opposite of the stereotype for West Coast Asians that Vannie mentions, but as I said, the environs people grow up in are diverse. There are a fair number of rich materialistic Asian-Americans on the West Coast, and the handbag thing does ring true for some Asian-Americans and Asians too. I really like NDTitanLady's video on Stereotypical Asians

Vannie's question: Is there are different subculture for West Coast Asians? I'd say yes, and probably not just one, but a number, depending where you grow up. Even here in Silicon Valley, I can see that the Asian-American kids growing up in heavily Asian Cupertino are different from the Asian-American kids I see in my own neighborhood of North East San Jose. Where I live, the Asian-American kids have a much heavier Urban influence, just like Ernie and I did when growing up. After living on the East Coast and coming back again, it's weird to see my own kids grow up in that similar kind of environment.

I'd also have to agree with Kevin that in a lot of places in California, Asian culture is heavily represented and understood. Most everyone of all ethnic groups knows what to do with their shoes when they come into our house, as an example.

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

twitter-19896506 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:06:02 -0000

As a Chinese American who grew up in the Northeast and then later moved to the Pacific Northwest in her preteen years... I would have to that in my personal experience, Asian Americans on the West Coast seem to be more diverse than the ones on the East Coast. East Coast Asians, regardless of economic status, seem to share common values such as family, education, and discipline. Most seem to have some connection with their roots. On the West Coast, there are Asian Americans who have close roots to their Asian culture - to the point of hanging out with mostly Asians of the same nationality - and then there are Asian Americans who are really Americanized and don't speak the language at all. The latter group tends to also be wealthier, but not all wealthy Asians are Americanized.

But even without race playing into the personalities of people on both coasts, there's still a cultural difference. West Coast people tend to be more open, laid-back, and isolated and East Coast people tend to be more aggressive, ambitious, and worldly. And even along the coasts there are cultural differences. In Seattle, a lot of people dress very casually but, say, in Southern California, people are very conscientious of the way they dress.

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

facebook-1237920510 — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:35:38 -0000

Good question. As a "west coast asian" who went to boarding school on the east coast, I say there is no difference (at least none that I've seen), but from my experience west coast asians are less "Americanized" simply because there is a greater cultural influence on the west coast. Sure there's a Chinatown in New York, but in California, Asian culture is EVERYWHERE, simply because those who emigrate from Asia tend to settle in California/West Coast.

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

eggrollstan — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:46:49 -0000

Eeep.... I'm a Southern Asian.

Re: BoA to Headline at the 2009 SF Pride Festival

bbroussard01b — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:01:42 -0000

Fancam versions of the concerts :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-7nrHBlgig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1pS_IoPD3U

Re: Miley Cyrus Does the Stupid Slant-Eye Thing

AZNPEOPLEROCK — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:25:17 -0000

fucken miley cyrus is a frikken slut anyways !
Miley Cyrus can do whatever she like
We ASIAN PEOPLE ROCK !!

Re: Caltech suicide victims, both Asians

tiennguyen — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:08:23 -0000

You figure being such a small school--about 900 undergrads--would provide a great deal of individual attention to these kids..

Re: KFC vs. KGC: WTF???

Lolz4reelz — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:58:25 -0000

That is ridiculous! I saw that commercial on t.v. and searched google to see if anyone else shared the same sentiment. I am literally sitting here laughing out loud about how blatant this ad is. (I'm not asian either)

Re: Write a Letter to Support Lt. Dan Choi!

facebook-7304153 — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:55:39 -0000

I'll see him later today at pride!

Re: Caltech suicide victims, both Asians

momdoc — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:51:17 -0000

Caltech is known to be the most intense university for science academia (along with MIT) in the world. The best of the best reside here, teach and wander these famous halls, as many profs are Noble Prize laureates. The average sleep an undergraduate student at Caltech gets is 5-6 hours per night...not uncommon for any university student. The difference here is the scope and magnitude of work that must be assimilated in those 5-6 hours. This is the university of Einstein and Richard Feynman, and in order to "stand on the shoulders of giants", one must absorb enormous amounts of pressure and not expect any slack be given.

I recently applied for a Public Health position at this school that would take a look at the constant strain of excelling at Caltech in order to help incoming Freshman deal with these stessors in a healthy manner. Well, I did not even get an interview, and my ideas for students maintaining mental, emotional and physical health while attending Caltech never attained fruition...I wonder if there was anything this position could have done to prevent these two students from taking their lives.

Caltech, please consider more than basic counseling...these kids could out talk any psychologist.

Re: Asian-Caucasian Couples Have Unique Health Pregnancy Risks

Gaurav11 — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:08:14 -0000

A have a got a piece of information regarding this.

New research indicates that the rates of cesarean deliveries, gestational diabetes, and other pregnancy-related outcomes differ among Asian, Caucasian, and interracial Asian-Caucasian couples.

"Our study demonstrates that interracial Asian-Caucasian couples represent a population with distinct perinatal risks, with differing risks depending upon which parent is of Asian race," the researchers state in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology.

The findings are based on a study of 868 Asian-Caucasian couples, 3226 Asian couples, and 5575 Caucasian couples who delivered at the Lucile Packard Children's Hospital in Stanford, California, from 2000 to 2005.

Compared to Caucasian couples, Asian-Caucasian couples were 2.4- and 2.6-times more likely to be affected by gestational diabetes, depending on whether the mother was Caucasian or Asian, Dr. Michael J. Nystrom, from Stanford University Medical Center, and colleagues found.

The risk in Asian couples, however, was even higher at 4.7-times higher than in Caucasian couple,

The results also indicate that Caucasian couples had larger babies than the other groups. The average birthweight in Caucasian couples was 3400 grams, compared with the next highest weight, 3360 grams, which was seen in Asian-mother/Caucasian-father couples.

Compared with Asian couples, Asian-mother/Caucasian-father couples were the only ones to have an increased rate of cesarean delivery.

"Further research into interracial couples may she light onto the effects of genetics vs environment on perinatal outcomes," the team concludes.

SOUIRCE: American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology, October 2008.

Thanks.

Re: Jane Lui Covers Michael Jackson’s You Are Not Alone w/ Ave Maria

Asianmommy — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 22:02:34 -0000

That was a truly beautiful performance.

Re: Acceptability and Asian Culture

facebook-1237920510 — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:07:02 -0000

Great post. To compliment, it reminds me of the sacrifices parents make for their children when their children are growing up. At some point they grow up and it becomes acceptable to ask them to make certain sacrifices as well, but at a young age (and I've seen this first hand), many children do become very loud or vocal when asked to make such sacrifices; not because they don't want to, but because they simply don't know better.

Very slowly, it does become part of one's identity, but I know my mother never put me in that position; and that sacrifice she makes.. by taking even less or doing even more.. speaks for itself.

Re: “Engrish/Chinglish”: Language Lost in Translation.

facebook-881645042 — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:33:16 -0000

I actually find the post slightly fascinating from a linguistic standpoint and how culture directly impacts how we interpret things.

My dad was reading a local newspaper in Chinese and got stuck on this word - not because he couldn't read it, but couldn't understand its meaning in the context of the sentence. It turns out, it said, "Richmond Hill" - which is a city North of Toronto - but they had chosen to use Chinese characters to represent the city symbolically rather than phonetically. Likewise, ask a person in China if they know who George Bush is, and they wouldn't ... they know Jiaoshi Bushe (I think that's how they know him as, Ben?) And China isn't the only place where these kinds of bastardizations of the English language are seen - moreover, it's an extensive exercise in international communications.

Really, it goes both ways. I think we as English native speakers get spoiled because we among over half of the world's population can be understood - that not enough credit is given when someone makes the effort in being understood. I get my Mandarin corrected all the time - and when someone apologizes for not being able to speak English well, I in turn say, "It's ok, I can't speak <insert language> either. Just try your best." 90% of the time it's THEM that makes the effort to speak English and not the other way around.

Re: White men making decisions for Asian women: the Burqa

TeresaCWCheng — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 15:35:58 -0000

Great post. Straight up and to the point. And, of course, totally necessary to bring this type of content to 8asians.

I appreciate the links you provide in your post. Varied and informative.

Thanks.

Re: “Engrish/Chinglish”: Language Lost in Translation.

facebook-1237920510 — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:20:42 -0000

Errr. Either I'm really obtuse (very VERY possible) or you're extremely sensitive (in that there doesn't seem to be much feedback after yours, but I could eat my own words when more comments follow). Either way, I think its best if I clarified terms because I guess this post could be seen as offensive.

"Fobs", at least from where I'm from, doesn't hold a negative connotation. Although, I do know people who treat it the same way "gay" is treated; in that it could be offensive to 1st or 1.5 gen. immigrants... but they are a minority. Then again, my hometown is about 70% Asian and attracts many immigrants from Hong Kong and Taiwan sooo.. the usage could be skewed. Not that it's a proper defense of the usage of "Fob", but I was/am technically a fob considering that I immigrated from Taiwan right before elementary school started.

"Ignorance" and "stupidity" (okay, stupidity may be pushing it) are, imo, justified because the improper use of the English language could be seen as "ignorant" to those who treat English as their native tongue. I'm sure if I butchered, (and lets be honest the spelling and grammatical errors in some of these signs butcher the English language) a foreign language, many people who speak that language would be offended.

I don't see how "proper usage of the English language" is offensive. In the context, it's simply a replacement for "grammatically correct"... at least that was the intention. Although in hindsight, "grammatically correct" may have been better.

Any English teacher throughout grade school would probably agree with me when I say that there are right ways and wrong ways to use the English language... and there are very little, if any gray areas in between. We were graded on this stuff, so I think the im/proper use of it is pretty important.

That being said, if I do offend anyone, sincerest apologies. I am accessible through Facebook or e-mail for discussion and am more than willing to talk about such issues/controversies.

(I know I'd look really silly if there are grammatical errors in the post or this comment, and I'm pretty sure there are a few. Just bear with me on that.)

- Kevin

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Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

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Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

Re: East Coast Asians versus West Coast Asians

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Re: Caltech suicide victims, both Asians

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Re: “Engrish/Chinglish”: Language Lost in Translation.

Re: White men making decisions for Asian women: the Burqa

Re: “Engrish/Chinglish”: Language Lost in Translation.

Re: Russell of Disney/Pixar’s Up is Asian!

Re: Russell of Disney/Pixar’s Up is Asian!