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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>8Asians.com - Latest Comments in Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://8asians.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://8asians.disqus.com/who_is_the_asian_princess/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:32:48 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-825432770</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Hmm, I don't know. I think that it's easy to blanket deeper social issues in racial discourse, especially if there exists the existential tensions that you mention in your argument re: the fetishization of Asian women (aka playing the victim and the race card in tandem). This article is kind of sad; it reeks of ignorance, jealousy and envy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would like to start by saying that I could care less what the guys think (regardless of their race) of my subsequent commentary. What really saddens me is the hypocrisy and spite in this article by a self-identifed Asian female toward other Asian females. Perceived competition, maybe? I've also noticed that a good majority of these so-called "interracial dating/marriage" articles are started by bitter and angry women to which the men will eventually respond. (But really, they don't relate very well, do they? Boys will be boys.)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Well, what can I say about these bitter and cathartic posts? It's a girl thing. It reminds me of a former (thank goodness) best friend of mine who was extremely passive-aggressive, most likely because she wasn't getting laid and had a mean feminazi streak. Anyway, she was always talking smack on everyone else's relationships, especially those of her close girlfriends 'cause she had nothing going for herself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;She also preferred non-white guys. In fact, a lot of ethnic women (encompassing all races, including subcultures) that I've met who are the ultra-elitist/purist/nationalist types carry some traits of that socio-political xenophobia of their respective culture and therefore prefer men of that culture. Familiarity is comfortable to all human beings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The women that you are ripping in this article, including that poor 17 year old girl (what did she do to deserve such harsh sanction?) do not have the critical capacity to respond to your vicious criticism. Thus, you're not playing fair. There will always exist shallow and materialistic people, and sluts, and feminists, and naive, impressionable girls. There will always be players.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;But honey, taking your stats from weblogs and craigslist postings makes you a bonafide hater, of which there will always be that, too.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Aly</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 11 Mar 2013 07:32:48 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-492209536</link><description>&lt;p&gt;How about this for a measure of the "Asian Princess" in the derogatory sense.  If a guy -- or anyone for that matter -- does something considerate for a girl, how does she react (e.g. does she say thank you)?  That I think is a better measure of narcissism and entitlement than $$$, her race, or what she wears.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Just today, I was at the airport and offered my luggage cart to this 20-something Asian girl who was toting two large suitcases.  As any gentleman would do at least in the old days.  She just glared at me and shooed me with her hands and her nose up in the air.  Not even a thanks or anything for trying to help her!  By the way, I'm an Asian man.  If I were a striking tall white guy, I have the suspicion that she would have been much nicer.  I do think there are Asian American girls who are very (racist) prejudiced against Asian men for whatever reason.  Case in point is the stereotype of Asian men = abusive and domineering in this post.  By the way, does this imply these suave white guys don't end up beating their Asian wives?  It's a human condition, not a skin color one.  Another strange observation of Asian women -- why are there all these female Asian studies professors married to white guys yet extolling the virtues of Asian culture?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Asian sisters, you're not only hurting your Asian bro's but also yourself by perpetuating this type of self-hatred in the sense of hating the other half of your race, muted and subdued as that hatred may be.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">EscapeLA</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 05:33:11 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-492209534</link><description>&lt;p&gt;How about this definition.  When someone does something nice for a girl, does she graciously express gratitude (e.g. a simple thank you)?  That I think is a better marker of a narcissistic, entitled attitude than material measures.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">myrebateupdate</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 10 May 2011 05:12:08 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-492209533</link><description>&lt;p&gt;In LA we have a variety of the Asian princess that fits into both examples. Especially in Koreatown and Arcadia there is a new generation of American born girls (and probably boys also, but I can't comment on them) who seems to be as materialistic and shallow as anyone else. These pampered, spoiled and sheltered girls typically live at home well into their 30's while attending school and then into the workplace. They tend to favor ostentatiously expensive things, Black Mercedes S500, Blahnik pumps and four figure handbags are standard issue. Their fathers who are probably out working to afford a good life for their families may compensate for not being there by showering them with material affection. They seem to get accustomed to it rather quickly and many expect that from every man in their life, which sets their expectations quite high. My observations suggest that the less the girl has seen of the world the more she craves material items. Some of these girls have never left Southern California much less to visit their countries of origin and many only speak English. One of my Vietnamese friends had a perfect description of this kind of Asian, "Banana".  Yellow on the outside, white on the inside.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Skizza</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:31:47 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-27805322</link><description>&lt;p&gt;That accounts of 9 out of 10 AW/WM couples I've seen.  To date I have seen 5 such couples after living in Boston for 2 years where the guy looks like he actually has options with women of his own race.  Kind of pathetic.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Firebrand003</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:17:18 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-27805174</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, the same thing happened to me at a bar recently. Usually I can identify these types of Asian girls, but this one passed under the radar because she was hanging out and dancing with a bunch of Asian guys...I asked her about a friend of hers that I had introduced to a Caucasian friend of mine earlier in the night, and the first thing out of her mouth was: "Oh, we're only interested in white guys" before I even finished the question.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This girl, who is bit chunky and definitely not cute, even admitted that it was fucked up and how most cute Asian girls only date white, and proceeded to say that Asian guys can only get "certain" Asian girls.  She finished up the thought with “yea...Asian guys are just too nice”.  I basically looked at her and was like:  “well, this is me being nice”, and threw my beer all over her face/dress and walked out.  It kind of shocked me to actually meet a girl that had the gall to say this to my face but I was most angry at myself for being weak and talking to an Asian girl in the first place (this was the first time I talked to one in 5 months). What really disappointed me were the Asian guys that were hanging out with these women. Herein lies the problem—most Asian guys I have met don't have the iron will and determination to look past Asian women and do everything their power to get what they want.  I mean, those girls disrespected them in a very fundamental way and yet they're still hanging out with them. Remember:  Asian women make up only 10 to 15% of the population (unless we're talking San Fran) in major US cities, this means for any Asian guy, only 1 in 9 or 10 of the women they make time for should be Asian, the other 9 should be some other kind.  Who the fuck cares if she's Asian?  Are you seriously going to admit to yourself that you are not good enough for anyone you want? If every Asian guy stuck to this proportion, I would bet that Asian women would have a completely different attitude about their worth in terms of sex and relationships.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I would seriously like to see what happens if every Asian guy in the US wakes up one morning and decides they would completely stop talking to all Asian women with the exception of family, work, school, or business.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Firebrand003</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:11:38 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-27788788</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with most of this article but the following sentence: "Who is the Asian Princess? She is any Asian woman an Asian man can’t handle..."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;It bothers me because it assumes that no matter what kind of Asian man we're talking about, there is always an Asian woman he can't handle (assuming he wants to)—and I'm in need of clarification as to what traits that make an Asian woman hard to handle for an Asian guy:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is it:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Girl A:&lt;br&gt;Because she is confident, honest with herself, generally a happy person without a chip on a her shoulder? Acts like Heidi Klum as opposed to Naomi Campbell (as in confident but not bitchy)?  And has an inner confidence that radiates self-assurance without turning presumptive or judgmental?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;OR&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Girl B:&lt;br&gt;Is it because she doesn't want to be “handled” at all by Asian men in general?--as in she will act extremely rude and unfriendly to any Asian man and switch to sweet smile upon meeting a white guy.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Lets be honest with ourselves, truly confident women, Girl A, rarely throw men off—they are usually sweet and down to earth (unless the guy does something to piss her off) because they don't feel the need to compensate for something (like her ethnicity whatever it may be) by “being difficult”. So I think the whole point of Asian women that Asian men can't handle is moot, because any and all interaction with these types of women (Girl B) has gone to hell before anything even starts, because she has already made up her mind.  So there is no “handle or not handle” BS, it's called moving on to the next girl who won't waste you time or good mood.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And for the Asian guys who buys into this BS, here's a story on how you deal with Girl B:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I'm an Asian guy and I used to get locked up and insecure around an "Asian woman I couldn't handle", that is of course until I developed my own confidence and figured out their most sore weak spot—meeting an Asian guy that THEY can't handle.  A few weeks ago I walked into a restaurant, sat down, and there are two very cute Korean girls a few tables down.  They don't notice me for a full 10 min, then this hot brunette sat down diagonally across from me.  I turn on the charm and start flirting with her, we chat for abt 20 min before she leaves, but not before giving me her number.  And for the rest of the half hour I was there, the Korean girls checked me out non-stop.  The same thing happened at a coffee shop two days later.  So Asian guys, the next time you think you can't handle an Asian girl, make sure it's because she is Girl A.  Girl B is not worth a wasting a second on, unless it's to rub in her face the fact that you can get a non-Asian girl who is as hot or hotter than she is.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Firebrand003</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 20:27:02 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-12942785</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I have lived in the US for 10 years now. I have had a problem with these women coming after me. I am 6', blonde, blue eyed, in good shape, articulate,  a high level professional, told I am very good looking, funny and Married (to a white woman)! I have never sought out an Asian woman in my life.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't have anything against Asian women or any women of any race but for some reason these women have sought me out. I have had a number of them that have tried to be my "best friend." Want to hang out with me all the time at the fitness club, at the country club, hockey rink, or what have you. I have even had them frequent my company as clients excessively in an attempt to establish a friendship with me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't like to try to be rude to anyone and have been neither overly friendly or flirtatious or rude to get rid of them. BTW they were ALL married too (to white men). And these men were not the best looking usually, while all of these women were very attractive. In retrospect I would say those men could not have married a white woman half as  attractive as these asian women were.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt; I don't even live in a city with a high Asian population (Phoenix). I probably just represent the "white bread" stereotype success story. I am not sure if they see me as "moving up the food chain" or what but they all have let me know in no uncertain terms I can have what I want with them. Its weird.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I stumbled across your article and you described most of them to a tee. Married to white men, designer this and that, German car...Mercedes or BMW. They have all told me they would only marry a white man (which I find odd, I would mary anyone of any race if I loved them). I didn't grow up in the US so I have a different perspective on things than Americans but I do represent the quintessential American s success story.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't pretend to know jack about any Asian culture. Its not really on my to do list either. I feel indifferent to Asian men &amp;amp;  women in general. They are just people to me. . But I keep having these gorgeous Asian women coming after me, more so than woman of any other race. And I just didn't understand why really. Why Asian women? I guess they were the Asians you described. Princesses.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And no, I wasn't stupid enough&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Your article was an eye opener.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Anthony</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 04:08:45 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441902</link><description>&lt;p&gt;"She keeps her figure slim and clothed in designer labels. Her well-manicured fingernails..."  That's where I relax...  Designer labels and well-manicured fingernails might mean a hot chick to screw, but probably just means an expensive ongoing tantrum. And I happen to live in a country where prostitution is legal, thank Christ, so a hot lay needn't come with out the baggage.  As for slim,  not so sure about that, the only chickos I see in designer labels and manicured finger nails aren't slim, they are skanky-assed skinny.  And I don't want skinny kids, so no thanks...&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">TimeOut</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:18:52 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441901</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, it's a bit of a cliche now. I was just at a cafe the other day and there were these two chubby middle-aged Caucasion guys that were talking about how they like to get on the Asian dating sites and "pick-up" Asian women looking for white guys. It was kind of pathetic to hear but after thinking about their "situation" a bit, it was totally understandable. I mean, here were two guys, overweight, somewhat unkempt, nothing special, who properly can't get any Caucasion women to date them, so the only women they can date happen to be those that would date them for the one thing they have to offer...whiteness. So you really can't knock them. But then you think about all these Asian women who would gladly welcome such guys just because their white, and well, maybe they all just deserve each other. On one side, you have all these insecure Asian females and on the other side you have all these insecure Caucasion guys. Match made in heaven.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ernie</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 23:32:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441900</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Funny story Earnie, and good response. I 'd probably would have said something like "You know, having an average white boy friend won't improve your self-image". I've met Asian women like this as well and although they have the right to date who they want, the fact that they JUST want to date a white guy is disturbing. I mean, I've done on-line dating before and all other women will always include a guy of the same ethnicity as a possible date and then expand from there to include other races. But with Asian females, there is an alarming number of them that write that they JUST want to date someone white. That's it. I wouldn't be as annoyed if they said they also could date black, hispanic, indian and other types, but no, they specifically just want to date someone white. It's becoming a cliche now.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jake</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 01:08:07 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441899</link><description>&lt;p&gt;No, I don't think it's a matter of taste, but a matter of plugging holes in their own insecurities. I remember once at a party that was multi-racial and I was mingling/flirting with all kinds of girls there and then I met this Asian chick that said something along the lines that the only "cute" guys at the party were a few white guys at the bar. Wow, I couldn't believe she said this right in my face. The thing is that she wasn't even that cute so I suspected that by making known that she just goes for white guys, it helped bolster her own self-esteem (by implying that she's too "good" for an Asian guy). Well, after she said it, she realized how silly the comment sounded, so she back-tracked a bit and apologized to me that she didn't mean to offend me. Well I wasn't about to let her off the hook so easily so I told her that I didn't date Asian women anyway so she wasn't going to get a free drink from me and that I had quite a few white friends with "Asian fetishes" that I could hook her up with. Boy that really annoyed her, but the way I see it, she DESERVED that response. I knew right there and then that she'd end up with some "frumpy" white guy. Typical.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ernie</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:25:32 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441898</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I have several Caucasion buddies that are average at best who have admitted to chasing after Asian girls because they can get a "hotter" Asian girl than a girl of their own race. So their logic is why go for an average white girl when you can easily get an above-average Asian girl? This actually makes a lot of sense from their perspective and you can't really knock them for going that route. What I wonder about though is why would so many Asian girls settle for guys that attractive women of their own race would otherwise take a pass on? I also asked an attractive Caucasion female friend of mine about this once, and she also noted that lots of Caucasion guys she sees with Asian girls are what she would call "rejects". &lt;br&gt;Do Asian girls have such bad taste?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jake</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 22:35:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441897</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Interesting topic. I guess everyone has a slightly different view point and therefore opinion. Here goes mine. I've dated girls of all races (minus 1) when I was younger. White, black, hispanic...even non-Americans, Dutch, Hungarian, Brit, Czech. I was married to a Norwegian gal at one time and followed that with a black girlfriend. So I've done the whole spectrum so to speak...EXCEPT Asian females (hence the minus 1 above). I mean when I was younger, they were the only group that "rejected" me. At first I thought it was me, but heck the non-Asian girls I've been with were of a pretty high standard, so it couldn't have been me. I've never had a problem meeting non-Asian women as they tend to find me quite interesting. However, when it comes to Asian women in this country, I can't seem figure it out. But here is my theory.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe that Asian-American females so desparately want to fit in and live the "all-american" lifestyle, that white-picket fence, suburban existence, mom, apple pie, SUV's, etc. etc. that they want to end up with a white male to accomplish this goal. It provides not only security and stability, but also an identity. I remember sitting at a cafe once and a group of 6-7 Asian-American mothers came in with their kids. All the kids were mixed, which meant that they all had white fathers. It was kind of funny to watch though. These mothers going about like typical American soccer moms. And then some of the dads strolled in. Wow, were they "frumpy" to say the least. For these Asian women to pick "frumpy" white guys over cultured well-educated Asian guys means that she is looking for something that is beyond the usual dating "resume". And that is the "American" lifestyle that the while guy provides for them.&lt;br&gt;Needless to say, I've given up on Asian women quite a while ago. It dawned on me that no matter how great and ideal an Asian guy can be, he'll get nowhere with these Asian women because he's.....well Asian. So why bother with them then when there are so many other races that are dateable.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ernie</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2007 04:44:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441896</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I FUCKING LOVE YOU. I... jesus. I had goosebumps, literally, the whole entire time. Reading that was like a burst of fresh air into an otherwise claustrophobic isolation chamber (the sad lack of visibility and TRUTH regarding Asian-American women's issues). Thank you for writing this. Thank you for not getting lost in PC-ridiculousness like so many other writers. Thank you thank you THANK YOU.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I don't know what else to say. I'm just beginning to realize my "Asian-ness" as I grew up around solely non-Asians and in "assimilated" environments. I'm in college now... and just looking around... I see so many gross stereotypes that society hold toward Asian women. how they are ENDLESS fetishized, fetishized, fetishized... by Asian men, non-Asian men, blacks, whites, hispanics, etc. etc. etc. The frustration and sheer disgust I experience from this is exacerbated by the fact that I AM A BROKE TOMBOY. I'm neither middle class nor feminine. My idea of a fun night is watching political documentaries in sweatpants, I dress like an auto-mechanic, I've been financially independent since the age of 17, I curse like a sailor, pure nerdcore, and I have a loud-ass mouth that's been known to go off at ignorant people. nothing about me is petite or "cute".. but because I am small and an asian female with typical east-asian females... "cartoony" features... PEOPLE TREAT ME LIKE A SECOND CLASS CITIZEN. Guys either hit on me using the whole creepy "me like you because you seem easy to dominate" and society in general tends to dismiss us as cute little marginal nothings.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;FUCK THIS SOCIETY. It's time for a change. More *strong* and *intelligent* Asian women in the forefront of media/society NOW. More exposure, less stereotpes. I don't have the good fortune of being around any Asian people/role models in my life right now, but this article gave me a lot of hope. If a smart, funny, acerbically witty and unapologically opinionated person like you exists, then there's more of us out there. I feel like my load has been lightened considerably... I'm not the only one fighting this cultural battle. lol.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Hannah</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:27:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441895</link><description>&lt;p&gt;"..white, black, hispanic (women) prefer men from their own race. The only exception are Asian women."&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Could the reason be that mainstream white culture doesn't place many negative connotations on a white man dating an Asian women? It's glamourized and romanticized with an implication that white men are doing Asian women a favour by helping them "escape" from mean Asian men. You see many more Asian females represented in the media in a positive light than you find of Asian men. In other words there doesn't seem to be the same degree of obstacle that a black woman might  face if she married white. By contrast AF/WM unions seem to be welcomed by white society.&lt;br&gt;The "problem"  that this acceptance creates is that  these unions are sometimes presented as evidence of a general acceptance of Asian people or culture, which I don't believe they are.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Confuse_Us</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:23:23 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441894</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Wow, Ken. I usually don't like posting comments that have no other purpose but to say "wow," but yeah.. wow. Very solid response. Wow. I wonder what there is to say to counter you...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Jolly good show!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">akrypti</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:53:44 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441893</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Well, I'm glad it took 10 posts to evoke Godwin's Law.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;My post was merely to point out that I know exactly where your argument is going to end up.  It's been done countless times and it always leads to the idea of being "colorblind" when it comes to love.  As much as it sounds good to be colorblind, it simply doesn't work.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Add on the fact that it's extremely offensive for white people to randomly troll around minority communities and state as a matter of fact that race isn't an issue ranging from topics such as workforce employment to interracial dating.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The fact of the matter is that it *is* an issue and it'll only get bigger.  If you look at the history of Asian America, this has been a very divisive topic and those that claim otherwise are simply trying to skirt around the problem.  This is also why I believe the Asian American community hasn't made any real progress other than through the growth of population size.  It loves to bury it's head in the sand.  In fact, I don't even believe Asian Americans have a "community."  The only community Asian Americans have is if there is a large group of them living in an area.  We, as Asian Americans, have almost no sense of community duty or civic responsibility.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Since you're so wise and up to speed on the sociology issues of Asian America, let's start you off slow and have you address the following regarding your topic and why it's so divisive.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;1.) In a recent poll conducted by Columbia University, it has been noted that women of all ethnicities are tolerant of interracial dating.  However, white, black, and Hispanic prefer men from their own race.  The only exception are Asian women.  In fact, white men can actually be less qualified in terms of education and net worth than an Asian man.  One would think that having the same racial background would be an advantage but it's actually a hindrance.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;2.) The lopsided ratio has lead to anger and mistrust.  Personal story in that I know several Asian women in the Houston area complaining that all the great Asian men were taken by white women.  Upon hearing this, other Asian men started jeering and mocking, almost in orgasmic joy, at these Asian women.  This, in turn, angers Asian women as they feel they're targeted simply for being Asian women.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;3.) Due to the fact that Asian men are severely emasculated by North American media, Asian women who date and marry white men are promoting the sexualized image.  In essence, stating to society that white men were right.  After all, with such a huge out flux of Asian women to white men, that means something must be wrong with Asian men.  Therefore, while Asian women believe they can stand up for Asian men while dating white men, it's simply impossible from a social point of view.   This point was actually brought up by an Asian American woman.  It's important to point out that it's not the same had the roles been reversed.  Asian men who date out put on a display that they can compete along the same lines despite what the white North American patriarchy states..  Hey, life isn't fair and it never will be.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;4.) There is no such thing as colorblind (in fact, it's a long-running Stephen Colbert gag for just that reason). It is not a racist stance to see color, but a fact of life. Ignoring it promotes ignorance.  I don't actually think you know what racism actually entails.  What you are describing is prejudice or "preference," not racism.  Racism is if one believes that one race is superior to another.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ken</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:35:42 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441892</link><description>&lt;p&gt;PS: The assumption that "dating out of your race" is for some reasons shameful, or done only because you can't date "in your race, where you naturally belong", is, by and large, plain old racism. It was even used by Nazi propaganda in children books to shame Jewish men dating Aryan girls. There's nothing revolutionary about it. It happens to me on the street by people far less conscious about race than one would assume the bloggers here to be. If I would have to pick a location to move to than indeed I'd hope to go to a place where people are more colorblind than that. Not completely colorblind, but a little more so that when walking the streets you don't have to wonder if people think these thoughts as expressed here all the time.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Philipp</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:50:04 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441891</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Philipp, do us all a favor and stfu&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; about the whole “colorblind” angle.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ken, and your argument, reason or rational discussion is where? Or are you merely calling names, trying to silence others by bullying them, and trolling for attention?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Philipp</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 10:44:34 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441890</link><description>&lt;p&gt;Philipp, do us all a favor and stfu about the whole "colorblind" angle.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Ken</dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 11:37:53 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441889</link><description>&lt;p&gt;The Asian princess is the girl who lives beyond her own means. The one who goes to daddy or mommy when they can't do it themselves. The one who shuns money when they've always had it. These are the girls who have never felt the real weight of shouldering costs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;The career Asian women are out there, but those aren't the ones writing these posts. They are the women of action, not words. They don't seek to persuade with cherry picked evidence, they seek to prove with actual achievement. I think it's too easy to cast stones behind castle walls (especially the ones daddy paid for).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I believe you commit the same mistake as your opponents. Several asian males try to make women feel inferior and irrational. Your post seeks to do the same thing to asian males. The common denominator between these two groups is this-- both are looking for love, and can't find it.  It results in caustic entries that denounce the XY phenotype, while secretly hoping that some grand exception will appear and prove all this wrong.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Did I mention that I'm an asian prince?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Asian Prince</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:27:34 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441888</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&amp;gt; Pathetic white men who can’t earn the time of&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; day from women of their own race, so they go&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; for Asian women, who are more than willing to&lt;br&gt;&amp;gt; be conquered because they think white is better.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sheesh, is *that* what you think when you meet a cross-ethnic couple in love on the streets?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Philipp</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:13:35 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441887</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;As I said, I grew up around white people and whilst I experienced my fair share of ignorance and racist stupidity, I never developed a sense that I was inferior or less masculine than anybody. I actually learned about these supposed characteristics from other Asians.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;BINGO!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(Oh, and princesses and divas exist in all cultures. Avoid.)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Bertie</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 10:17:05 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: Who Is the Asian Princess?</title><link>http://www.8asians.com/2007/10/09/who-is-the-asian-princess/#comment-10441886</link><description>&lt;p&gt;I grew up around white people and all of my dating experience has been with non - East Asian women, so I never came into contact with the "Asian Princess" character you speak of.  This is something of a "shotgun" rant - you've rolled several grievances into one and fired off a volley that will hit many targets at once. Good tactic - let everyone know that they're assholes!  &lt;br&gt; As I said, I grew up around white people and whilst I experienced my fair share of ignorance and racist stupidity, I never developed a sense that I was inferior or less masculine than anybody. I actually learned about these supposed characteristics from other Asians. That's just sad - how is it that Asians who are obviously part of an Asian community can develop such self-denigrating self images, whilst I as the only East Asian in my town developed a belief that Asians are a cultured race worthy of dignity and respect?  What is the Asian community doing wrong? &lt;br&gt; I think that the main gist of your rant/post is that Asian women lack the consciousness to overcome living their lives based upon stereotypical attitudes from within and outside of their own communities. The road to any emancipation has to begin with an internal struggle - a questioning of ; one's place (expected or otherwise) in society; the historical circumstances that brought one to a particular point in life; challenging the "truths" of the society or community you're from and so on and so forth. Most importantly, an individual must develop a vision for themselves and their community - how does one see the future of society and one's place in it. Unfortunately, the Asian community seems to lack this vision, is this why there is so much self-denigration and mutual distrust?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Confuse_Us</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:16:45 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>